Regarding the Horde topic, I agree that it is more a side-step than a backwards one. But being told "join them to get kills" (a just that), relative to supposed lack of activity - that's not a satisfying reason to me and that feels going back as when TRI told us "get active again and we might consider you". I don't want to not join horde because I'm above it, but rather because I feel that the pvp spirit here and the play style would fit more to my desires/expectations and how I want to play the game. In another situation - that is, not while I'm applying here - I could very well join the Horde (although I reckon that the horde's size is a bit too much - if i play a MMO, it's also for the social part of it - and being just another grunt does not fulfill that part very well). But there are also other alliances that I can join right now with what I can bring as of today - and on a quite good level. Maybe not the best, but definitely not the worst, and for sure better than FCON. However, I chose to try to join you guys, because I think it's good for me of course, but also because I think I can bring interesting things for you. I'm not expecting that it will solve all my "problems" with the game (i don't have many, I just want to find a better place that corresponds more to what I want and what I can do - cf. the lack of capital fights for example), and it will actually raise other challenges (cf. the account thing that just came up again, the activity thing that I've answered above).
Regarding the accounts situation:
I have 2 good accounts, and I've already said that I am willing to invest in more if necessary - like training alts on those 2 existing accounts - and getting 3rd with the FAX if I get to the supercap level. I'm finishing to polish the 2 mains on those 2 accounts, and I have never said I'm not willing to train those extra stuff. The cap alt already has T2 moros and T2 apostle in 20 days. This same alt is also supercap ready.
Now, you're saying that to "prove my commitment" I should immediately have a 3rd one before joining? To quote/paraphrase/rephrase myself - you don't buy a 3rd car that you don't need yet for the new job you don't have yet. Moreover, I think that by answering carefully and investing a great amount of time in this application right now, I've already shown my dedication, my interest, and my willingness to join. Time, after all, is what we all have most precious.
Therefore, buying an account right now without any guarantees, or opening one and spending isk/$ to build up a character or transfer skills to another, in order to go with the supercap I don't have at the moment, even before joining and without even knowing that I would join or not... I'm sorry but this is not showing commitment. Rather, it's showing that I yield under pressure, and that I make rash and stupid decisions in order to reach acceptance. Not accepting such blackmail - because let's be honest the power unbalance here is in your favor, along with the pressure you put on the potential recruits (which are reminding me of Harvey in Suits but without the yelling, therefore being way above and more efficient (/respect ;p)) - is on the contrary showing that I can stand my ground and not yield to unreasonable demands. I'm a reasonable person, and what you ask for me is to spend the equivalent of a lot of time (thus money) for what can easily be empty promises. What EVE taught me very early (and life of course - but especially EVE) is not to trust so easily people you don't know. Since it's also true from you to me, I understand that you try to do that - but in the end it's not proof at all of a strong character or of commitment. And I'm not sure that's what you are actually looking for.
To me, a common understanding on such matter goes as follows : IF I am to be accepted here, I've already said several times that I can commit to several adaptations on the characters' training, and that training a 3rd account to go with a supercap is possible. IF I was to join and not start this process immediately, you just have to click on "expel". But if I would do what you ask - buying an account now or opening one and training now something I don't need as of right now - although it could be useful on the long term, but it's still not useful in my current situation - for me, then, I would have spent time and money for maybe nothing if you change your mind. And again, yielding to such demands is (in my humble opinion) a stupid decision, and in this context does not mean commitment.
Since I know that I can be true to my word, but I don't know you will (and the reverse is true of course), you will just have to send me an invite and you will see me doing what we will have decided ahead of time regarding those accounts - and in detail - with a precise plan and with defined costs and timeline and so on - because no, i don't improvise such things, and no, I don't take such decisions on a whim (and I would gladly take the help you offered earlier about that). If it's not done, it's easy to expel me.
If it doesn't suit you guys, fine. Tell me so, so that everybody (that is the 400 people who have read (part of) that thread and me) can stop wasting their precious time. But don't ask people to spend said precious time without any guarantee. We're not kids, and it's still a game - it's ok to take it seriously, that's what I'm doing btw - but there are no RL threatening issues at stake here, and thus no necessity to be unreasonable or excessive.
Ps: I've left my country to live with the woman I chose to build my future with. The 1st thing I did is learn their language. I know what commitment is about. And no it didn't go by as me going all in after 3 days of sweet talks.